Ocean：數據經濟生態王牌項目，如何穩紮穩打擴展版圖 | AMA 整理

由 熱鏈中的人 於 1 月 29, 2021

2020 年 1 月 28 日晚 9 點，Uniswap 中文社區分析師墨客對話 Ocean Protocol 聯合創始人 Bruce，進行了“Ocean：數據經濟生態王牌項目，如何穩紮穩打擴展版圖”的主題 AMA 活動。本次直播活動由區塊方舟 BlockArk 支持，鏈聞 ChainNews、星球日報 Odaily、區塊律動 BlockBeats、陀螺財經、深鏈財經、PANews、火星財經、Blocklike、博鏈財經、鏈向財經媒體支持，直播分享內容整理如下：

墨客：Hello everyone, I’m Moc, and I’m very happy to invite Ocean to come and share with us.The Ocean Protocol is a decentralized data exchange protocol.The Ocean Protocol team is a team I know that few have a deep understanding of the blockchain. Friends who are interested can read various discussion articles published by their Medium.
大家好，我是墨客，很高興邀請到 Ocean 過來與我們做分享。海洋協議是一個去中心化的數據交換協議。海洋協議團隊是我知道少有對區塊鏈有深刻理解的團隊，有興趣的朋友可以去看他們 Medium 發佈的各種探討文章。

Bruce：Nice to see everyone here！
很高興見到大家！

墨客：First, let\’s ask Bruce, the co-founder of Ocean, to introduce ourselves.
首先我們請 Ocean 聯合創始人 Bruce 做下自我介紹。

Bruce：Hi Everyone, I\’m Bruce – founder of Ocean Protocol. I\’m excited to be here. And I hope I can answer your questions.
大家好，我是布魯斯，海洋協議的創始人。我很興奮來到這裏。也希望能回答你的問題。

墨客：Okay, thank you Bruce.Our AMA will start right away. First, we will enter the moderator communication session. After the end, we will have free communication time.
好的，謝謝 Bruce。我們的 AMA 馬上開始，首先會進入主持人交流環節，在結束之後，我們會有自由交流時間。

墨客：Please briefly introduce Ocean\’s development process. From V1 to V3, what functions have been added or changed in different stages of Ocean? In conclusion, what are the main focus of the Ocean now?
請您先簡單的介紹一下 Ocean 的發展歷程，從 V1 到 V3，在不同階段的 Ocean 都做了哪些功能的新增或者改變？最後總結一下，Ocean 現在主要有哪幾個的板塊？

Bruce：Ocean V1 had decentralized access control, and had a basic template to create data marketplaces.
Ocean V1 具有去中心化的訪問控制，並具有創建數據市場的基本模板 .

Ocean V2 added the ability to buy & sell private data while retaining privacy, via the Ocean Compute-to-Data feature.
Ocean V2 通過 Ocean Compute-to-Data 功能增加了在保留隱私的同時買賣私人數據的功能。

Ocean V3 is Ocean\’s most important release yet. It introduces the concept of datatokens for access control, securitization of data, liquidity pools for dynamic pricing – all through the Ocean Market. Datatokens makes Ocean tools simpler, easier to work with, and more interoperable with crypto & DeFi tools. Ocean Market is the first community data marketplace, with key features like Compute-to-Data, and automated price discovery using Balancer AMM.
Ocean V3 是 Ocean 迄今爲止最重要的版本。它介紹了數據令牌訪問控制，數據證券化，及用於動態定價的流動性池的數據令牌的概念，這些將全部通過海洋市場來進行。Datatokens 使 Ocean 工具更簡單，更易於使用，並且可以與加密和 DeFi 工具互操作。海洋市場是第一個社區數據市場，其主要功能包括“Compute to data”以及使用 Balancer AMM 進行自動價格發現。

We have a working product and a vibrant community. Our task now is to work with users to fill the Ocean Market with data and services. We see that there is similar work to get adoption and kickstart a Data Economy. If we do our work well, Ocean Market will be play an important role in the Data Economy. Our job for 2021 is to get more data, DApps, and more usage with grassroots developers and with governments and enterprises.
我們有一個可行的產品和一個充滿活力的社區。現在，我們的任務是與我們的用戶一起將數據和服務填充進海洋市場。我們可以看到，有類似的工作可以被採用並激活數據經濟。如果我們做好我們的工作，海洋市場將在數據經濟中扮演重要角色。2021 年我們主要的工作是與基層開發人員以及政府和企業一起獲取更多數據，DApp，並獲得更多使用

墨客：It seems that Ocean has been iterating, which is great. This is a very important feature of a successful blockchain project.
看起來 Ocean 一直有在迭代，這很不錯。這個是一個成功區塊鏈項目很重要的特徵。

墨客：We already know that the core component of OceanV3 is data tokens. May I ask Bruce, what exactly are datatokens? Who can create datatokens?
我們已經知道 OceanV3 的核心部件是數據代幣，請問 Bruce 數據代幣到底是什麼？誰可以創建數據代幣（是任何人都可以創建還是必須是其他區塊鏈的項目方）？

Bruce：Datatokens are ERC20 tokens that represent the value of the data asset and provide access to that data asset. Datatokens radically simplify data sharing, and leveraging existing Web3 mental models for custody, wallets, liquidity, staking and farming. ERC20 tokens that are generated for each published dataset. And since ERC20 tokens are highly compatible with #DeFi, all datatokens can be staked, injected into AMMs and then used as collateral for lending.
數據令牌是 ERC20 令牌，代表數據資產的價值並提供對該數據資產的訪問權限。數據令牌從根本上簡化了數據共享，並利用現有的 Web3 智能模型進行託管，錢包，流動性，抵押和耕種。每個已發佈的數據集都會生成 ERC20 令牌。而且由於 ERC20 令牌與#DeFi 高度兼容，因此所有數據令牌都可以質押，注入到 AMM 中，然後用作貸款的抵押品。

Datatokens let people discover the value of their dataset and encourage liquid trading of data assets through our pioneering approach of using Balancer liquidity pools integrated into Ocean Market.
Datatokens 使人們能夠發現其數據集的價值，並通過我們使用集成到海洋市場中的 Balancer 流動性池的開創性方法來鼓勵數據資產的流動性交易。

Datatokens solves one of the biggest questions we had when we started this – and that is \”what is the price of data?\” or \”what is the value of data?\”
Datatoken 解決了我們開始時遇到的最大問題之一，那就是“數據價格是多少？” 或“數據的價值是什麼？

With datatokens along with AMMs – the market can figure it out. This is a huge breakthrough if people can get a price signal on the value of their data, we think people will be incentivized to share more willingly.
藉助與 AMM 一起使用的數據令牌，市場可以解決這一問題。如果人們能夠從其數據的價值中獲得價格信號，那麼這將是一個巨大的突破，我們認爲人們會被激勵去更願意分享自己數據。

墨客：Many people don’t understand data tokens. Let me briefly introduce what ocean does is to encapsulate complex data transactions into data tokens, so that everyone can simply use ERC20 tokens to trade data, and can also implement mining, etc. Features.
數據令牌很多人不太理解，我簡單的介紹下，ocean 做的就是把複雜的數據交易封裝到數據令牌裏面，這樣大家可以簡單的用 ERC20 代幣來交易數據，還可以實現挖礦等功能。

墨客：The pricing and exchange of datatokens in the Ocean protocol takes place in Ocean Market. Could you pleas e briefly introduce the principles of Ocean Market? Who are the main participants? How are datatokens priced and circulated? How is it different compared to Balancer?
Ocean protocol 中要實現數據代幣的定價和交換是在 Ocean Market 發生的，請您簡單介紹一下 Ocean Market 的原理？主要參與者是誰？數據代幣是如何定價並進行流通的？相比於 Balancer 它有什麼不同？

Bruce：Ocean Market is an open-source community marketplace for data.
海洋協議是一個開源的數據市場。

Ocean Market allows publishers to post data for sharing and use. Data can be fixed price or dynamic price. If the data is fixed, people can straight up buy the data using $OCEAN. For dynamic price, the price varies depending on the liquidity pool – the more popular the dataset with liquidity providers, the higher the price. This is out of the box functionality.
海洋市場允許發佈者發佈數據以供共享和使用。數據可以是固定價格或動態價格。如果數據價格是固定的，人們可以直接使用 $ OCEAN 來購買數據。對於動態的數據價格，價格取決於流動性池-在流動性提供者中數據集越受歡迎，則價格越高。這就是開箱即用的功能。

Anyone can stake OCEAN into each pool, to get a cut of sales fees. The more useful datasets will tend to have higher liquidity, higher prices, and higher signal. Over time, the market and community will be able to identify quality datasets faster from pattern
recognition. It gives datasets a value signal, which is a key piece to unlock a Data Economy.Under the hood, we used a fork of Balancer to make this happen. We made core contributions to the Balancer code and in the next release of Balancer v2, the code in our fork will be integrated.
任何人都可以將 OCEAN 放到單個資源池中，以節省費用。更加有用的數據集將傾向於具有更高的流動性，更高的價格和更高的信號。隨着時間的流逝，市場和社區將能夠從模式識別中更快地識別出高質量的數據集。它爲數據集提供了價值信號，這是解鎖數據經濟的關鍵。在這之下，我們使用了 Balancer 的分叉來實現這一目標。我們爲 Balancer 代碼做出了核心貢獻，並且在下一版本的 Balancer v2 中，我們 fork 的代碼將被直接集成進去。

墨客：說個題外話，Balancer 跟 Ocean 這兩個項目方私交不錯。
To make a digression, Balancer has a good personal relationship with Ocean.[奸笑]

墨客：Next，In a medium titled \”the web3 sustainability loop\”, we learned that the establishment of OCEAN DAO will provide Grants for some projects. Recently, Ocean also released the first batch of Grant projects. Please briefly explain this Dao governance logic? And what conditions are met to be able to be awarded a Grant?
在一篇 medium 標題爲“ the web3 sustainability loop” 的文章中，我們從中瞭解到 OCEAN DAO 的成立會爲一些項目提供捐贈資金，近期 Ocean 還發布了第一批 Grant 的對象，請簡要的講解一下這樣的 Dao 治理邏輯？以及滿足什麼樣的條件纔有可能被授予捐贈？

Bruce：OceanDAO closes the loop on a “snowball effect” feedback cycle where the health of OCEAN and the Ocean ecosystem rises as the usage of Ocean goes up. In order to qualify to be awarded a grant, the proposals must have help to grow the Ocean ecosystem – technical, outreach or marketing, and be aligned with Ocean\’s mission. Developers and community members are issued tokens from a pool of network rewards and revenues from the Ocean Market.
OceanDAO 在“雪球效應”反饋循環中關閉了循環，隨着海洋的使用量增加，海洋和海洋生態系統的健康狀況也隨之提高。爲了有資格獲得贈款，這些提案必須對發展海洋生態系統（技術，推廣或市場營銷）有所幫助，並與海洋的使命保持一致。開發人員和社區成員從網絡獎勵池和海洋市場的收入中獲得令牌。

There are Town Halls every Wednesday where community members can ask questions and discuss their project proposals. The second funding round closes on Feb 1.
More info on https://github.com/oceanprotocol/oceandao/wiki
每個星期三都有 Town Halls，社區成員可以在那裏提問並討論他們的項目建議。第二輪融資將於 2 月 1 日結束。
有關更多信息，請訪問 https://github.com/oceanprotocol/oceandao/wiki

墨客：This has little to do with ordinary users, but generally speaking, the willingness of the project party to launch Grant activities represents enthusiasm and the financial strength to promote ecological development.
這個跟普通用戶的關係不大，但是一般來說，項目方願意展開 Grant 活動代表了積極性，並且有資金實力推動生態發展。

墨客：Ocean has many grant plans recently. In addition to Ocean DAO, it has also released the first batch of Ocean shipyard grant lists and jointly released ecological partner rewards. In such large-scale ecological cooperation construction activities, may I ask Ocean Protocol, How to make use of value in other projects? What plans will be made in the construction of the ecosystem in the future?
Ocean 最近有很多 Grant 計劃，除了 Ocean DAO，還發布了第一批 Ocean shipyard 的 Grant 名單和與聯合發佈的生態合作伙伴獎勵等等，在這樣的大規模的生態合作建設活動中，請問 Ocean Protocol 會如何在其他的項目中發揮價值？將來在生態系統的建設上還會做出什麼樣規劃？

Bruce：Our job is to build the native Web3 infrastructure that allows data sharing to flow. Part of this is to have hooks, tooling and integrations that allow companies, large and small to join in.
我們的工作是建立允許數據共享流動的本地 Web3 基礎結構。其中一部分是具有掛鉤，工具和集成功能，使所有的公司都可以加入。

To date, we have run several programs to activate community groups and developers. We did Data Economy Challenge which has had interest from 400 teams, Shipyard for startups going for MVPs, Covidathon, a collaboration of projects in the space to see how Web3 tech could be leveraged to support covid19 research efforts and finally OceanDAO. Each of these initiatives appeals to a different flavour of developer and community member. By year end, we hope that a full 100 teams will have received funding, with some of the teams being able to build sustainable businesses on top of Ocean Protocol.
迄今爲止，我們已經進行了幾個活動來激活社區團體和開發人員。我們進行了數據經濟挑戰賽，該活動引起了 400 個團隊的關注，同時還有 Shipyard 活動-爲那些初創公司爭取了 MVP Covidathon 活動，與該領域的項目合作，以瞭解如何利用 Web3 技術來支持 covid19 研究工作，最後是我們的 OceanDAO 活動。這些舉措中的每一個都吸引了不同的開發人員和社區成員。到年底，我們希望將有 100 個團隊獲得 Ocean 的資助，並且其中一些團隊能夠在《海洋協議》的基礎上建立可持續的業務。

Our Enterprise partners challenge us to create cutting-edge technology for real-world use cases with impactful applications. So the intersection of enterprise needs dovetails into our community efforts well.
我們的企業合作伙伴向我們提出挑戰，要求我們爲具有影響力的應用程序的真實用例創建尖端技術。因此，企業需求的交集很好地契合了我們的社區努力。

墨客：Great！
很棒！

墨客：In the recent medium, we see that Ocean’s recent partners are involved in various fields, such as health care, Internet of Things, artificial intelligence, education, public welfare, DeFi, etc., in which application scenario Ocean protocol is most likely to be implemented. ? In which area do you think Ocean protocol will exert the greatest value?
在最近的 medium 中我們看到 Ocean 最近的合作方涉及到各個領域，比如說健康醫療，物聯網，人工智能，教育，公益，DeFi 等等，請問目前在哪個應用場景 Ocean protocol 最有可能實現落地？您覺得在哪兒個領域 Ocean protocol 會發揮最大的價值？

Bruce：There is a strong case for the need for data decentralization in the automotive industry. In 2020, Ocean partnered with Daimler, the producer of Mercedes-Benz, to deliver a decentralized data sharing solution pilot to enable the sharing of private data and monetization. We built the end-to-end platform using Ocean tech featuring access control, data discovery, storage, and Compute-to-Data. This solution can be deployed to any other partner that we work with in the future.
在汽車行業中，數據去中心化的需求有很強的理由。2020 年，Ocean 與梅賽德斯-奔馳 (Mercedes-Benz) 的生產商戴姆勒 (Daimler) 合作，推出了去中心化的數據共享解決方案試點，以實現私人數據和貨幣化的共享。我們使用 Ocean 技術構建了端到端平臺，包括訪問控制、數據發現、存儲和算力對數據。這個解決方案可以部署到未來與我們合作的任何其他合作伙伴。

We are approaching a clear intersection where crypto meets mobility and data monetization. More people are seeing this. For example, financial analysts are estimating that ‘all of Tesla\’s other data services will be worth more than its car business’. And Ocean is hoping to be right there when it happens – as we move towards a tipping point to mass adoption of mobility, data monetization, and a new Data Economy.
我們正在接近一個明確的交叉點，即加密技術滿足移動性和數據貨幣化。越來越多的人看到了這一點。例如，金融分析師評估“特斯拉所有的數據服務的價值都將超過它的汽車業務”。希望當它發生的時候 Ocean 就在那裏——當我們走向大規模採用移動、數據貨幣化和新數據經濟的臨界點時。

Of course, mobility isn\’t the only sector where data sharing is needed. Part of the magic of decentralization is that innovation can come from anywhere. So while we have significant efforts in mobility, other areas are starting to show a lot of promise. We\’re excited for what can rise to the surface in 2021.
當然，移動性並不是唯一需要數據共享的領域。去中心化的魔力之一是創新可以來自任何地方。因此，儘管我們在出行方面做出了巨大努力，但其他領域也開始顯示出很大的希望。我們很期待 2021 年能有什麼東西浮出水面。

墨客：Cooperation with a well-known entity such as Daimler is a very good progress. It is a bit like the cooperation between another project FLOW and the NBA recently. These are all good things that can ask the currency circle to bring incremental funds and applications.
跟戴姆勒這種知名實體公司合作是很不錯的進展。有點像最近另外一個項目 FLOW 跟 NBA 的合作，這些都是可以問幣圈帶來增量資金與應用的好事。

墨客：Polkadot\’s parachain auction is about to begin. Seeing that Ocean is also submitting the proposal for the auction parachain slot, what benefits will the successful bidding of the parachain bring to the Ocean protocol?
波卡的平行鏈拍賣即將開始，看到 Ocean 也在提交了拍賣平行鏈插槽的 proposal，請問平行鏈的競拍成功會爲 Ocean protocol 帶來什麼好處？

Bruce：Ocean isn\’t planning submitting a proposal for an auction parachain slot. We don\’t need it right now. We are happy to be working with Moonbeam to deploy Ocean smart contracts and Ocean Market on the Kusama network. We think this approach hews to the strengths of our team to focus on data sharing, while allowing others to shine for their talents in deploying Ocean to a new network and running a new Ocean Market.
Ocean 並未計劃爲拍賣平行鏈插槽提交提案。我們現在不需要它。我們很高興與 Moonbeam 合作並且在 Kusama 網絡上部署 Ocean 智能合約和 Ocean Market。我們認爲這種方法充分發揮了我們團隊的優勢，專注於數據共享，同時允許其他人在將 Ocean 部署到新網絡和運行新的 Ocean Market 方面發揮才華。

墨客：Frankly speaking, KSM has been selected for many projects, of course, I will not discuss comparison here. I personally discussed this with Polkadot’s project team. Those who are interested can calculate whether the income of many IPOs (slot issuance) can cover such a high valuation. This may be a big bubble.
坦白講挺多項目選了 KSM 的，當然這裏不探討比較。我個人跟波卡的項目方也討論過這個事，有興趣的可以算算現在很多 IPO （插槽發行）的收益是否可以覆蓋這麼高的估值，這搞不好是一個很大的泡沫。

墨客：If the auction of the parachain is successful, in what form will Ocean join the Polkadot parachain, in the form of a public chain or in the form of a Dapp nested in a parachain? Will there be any changes to the protocol layer?
如果拍賣平行鏈成功，Ocean 會以什麼樣的形式加入到波卡平行鏈中，會以公鏈的形式還是以嵌套在某條平行鏈的 Dapp 的形式？協議層會有什麼改動嗎？

Bruce：By working with Moonbeam, we will be a DApp on a parachain – with all the advantages of performance, lower cost and greater accessibility for people that are dipping their toes into the Data Economy.
通過與 Moonbeam 合作，我們將成爲平行鏈上的 DApp——爲涉足數據經濟的人們帶來性能、更低的成本和更大的可訪問性等優勢。

墨客：In the Polkadot ecosystem, there are some other data validation projects such as Litentry. Compared with other data validation projects, what is the core competitiveness of Ocean?
在波卡系列的項目中，還有一些其他的數據確權的項目比如 Litentry, 請問相對與其他的數據確權項目，Ocean 的核心競爭力是什麼？

Bruce：Ocean opens up enormous opportunities for developers and enterprises to explore the data economy. We allow people to turn data into an asset and earn money on their data. By integrating with #DeFi building blocks, people are able to use the latest innovations for a) securitizing data to construct pools of datatokens, just like an index fund – where others can invest into, b) injecting datatokens into automated market makers like Balancer and Uniswap to earn yield or increae liquidity or c) using data as collateral for lending.
Ocean 爲開發人員和企業探索數據經濟提供了巨大的機會。我們允許人們將數據變成資產，並從他們的數據中賺錢。通過與#DeFi 構建基塊集成，人們能夠使用最新的創新技術來進行以下操作：a）證券化數據以構建數據令牌池，就像索引基金一樣，其他人可以投資；b）將數據令牌注入到 Balancer 和 Uniswap 用來賺取收益或增加流動性，或 c）使用數據作爲貸款抵押。

墨客：The token release model and value source are important references for investors in the secondary market. Please briefly describe the OCEAN release model and the logic of destruction, and how to achieve long-term value growth of OCEAN?
代幣的釋放模型和價值來源是二級市場的投資者重要參考，請簡述一下 OCEAN 的釋放模型和銷燬的邏輯，以及如何實現 OCEAN 的價值長期增長？

Bruce：First, $OCEAN is a utility token with many uses in the network. $OCEAN can be used to:
1) Default pairing for any datatoken for staking
2) Buy / sell Datatokens
3) Vote on OceanDAO proposals
4) Emissions of OCEAN for network rewards
5) Pay fee commission in the Ocean Market, a portion of which is burned
首先，$OCEAN 是一個在網絡中有許多用途的實用令牌。$OSEAN 可用於：
1) 爲放置的任何數據標記默認配對
2）購買 / 出售數據票據
3) 就大洋洲提案進行表決
4) 爲網絡獎勵而排放的 OCEAN
5）到海洋市場手續費佣金，其中一部分會被銷燬

The token supply has been set since 2017 when we did the initial fundraising. In this model, 10% of tokens wnet to the core team, 20% to investors, 20% to the Foundation for community efforts and 50% to the network rewards.
代幣供應是在 2017 年我們進行初始籌款時設定的。在這種模式下，10% 的令牌給核心團隊，20% 給投資者，20％給社區努力基金會，50％給網絡獎勵。

To date, 610m tokens have been minted, with 420m in circulation. The remaining tokens are held by Ocean Foundation.
迄今爲止，已經鑄造了 610 萬枚代幣，其中 420 萬枚正在流通。其餘的代幣由海洋基金會持有。

We will activate network rewards sometime in 2022 when the OceanDAO is mature and fully tested, where grants can be given to people that perform useful activities on the network. The optimal balance is where the token supply grows with the value of the network and serve to accelerate adoption of the technology. Ultimately, it is the community that will decide the token inflation rate in the long-term.
我們將在 2022 年的某個時候激活網絡獎勵，當 OceanDAO 成熟並經過全面測試時，可以向在網絡上執行有用活動的人提供贈款。最佳的平衡是令牌供應隨着網絡的價值而增長，並有助於加速技術的採用。最終，決定長期象徵性通脹率的是社區。

墨客：There is not much difference between the circulation data and coingecko.
流通數據跟 coingecko 是沒有太大出入的。

墨客：Okay, thank you Bruce. Next, we enter the free communication link, friends who have questions can raise questions in the group, both in Chinese and English.
好的，謝謝 Bruce。接下來我們進入自由交流環節，有問題的朋友可以在羣裏提出來，中英文都可以。

【自由問答環節】

@Jimmi：The successful launch of the data market requires a large amount of valuable data. I have seen a lot of data sets released by the beta version of Ocean market, but there is currently no classification or retrieval function, and most data sets are not valuable to me. What is the barrier of the Ocean market now? In addition, will users who issue data tokens in the beta version have rewards in the future? Such as airdrop?
數據市場的成功推出需要大量有價值的數據。我看過很多 Oceanmarket 測試版發佈的數據集，但是目前沒有分類或者檢索功能，大部分數據集對我來說沒有價值。現在遠洋市場的壁壘是什麼？另外，在測試版中發放數據令牌的用戶在未來會有獎勵嗎？比如空投？

Bruce：Great question. The Ocean V3 release of Ocean Market was amazing. Lots of users and experimentation. What became clear was the following:
1. The dynamics of the market skewed too heavily to the publishers, allowing rug pulls on people adding liquidity
2. The main purpose of the market – to get buyers and sellers was hindered by the high cost of gas and transactions. This is why we need to explore other chains that can handle the transaction volume
3. The Ocean Market will have deficiencies. Selling and buying data is typically done by the very few – so we will take the best from the existing data marketplaces but give it a web3 flavour. This is the main challenge. We need to give people a user experience that allows htem to understand the data enough to buy it – categories, classification, sorting and analytics. I\’m heartened to see so many startups already trying to give this transparency about data sets. But we have work to do on Ocean Market before we can bring on a lot more people at scale.
好問題，Ocean 市場的 V3 發佈令人驚歎。大量的用戶和實驗。變得清晰的是：
1. 市場的動態對出版商的影響太大了，這使得人們增加了流動性。
2. 這個市場的主要目的——吸引買家和賣家，但由於 gas 費和交易的高成本而受到阻礙。這就是爲什麼我們需要探索其他可以處理交易量的鏈
3. 海洋市場有不足之處。買賣數據通常是由極少數人完成的——因此，我們將從現有的數據市場中獲取最大的收益，但使其具有 web3 風味。這是主要的挑戰。我們需要給人們一個用戶體驗，讓 htem 能夠充分理解數據以便購買它——分類、分類、排序和分析。令我如此激動的是，看到如此多的初創公司已經在努力提高數據集的透明度。但在我們能夠大規模吸引更多的人之前，我們在海洋市場上還有很多工作要做。

@Neil：I saw a discussion about the number of Ocean market data sets before. Now Ocean is still in the beginning of the Moore curve, and a large number of data sets need to be added before proceeding to the next step: forecasting data. May I ask When do you estimate that data can be used to predict data?
之前看到有關於遠洋市場數據集數量的討論。現在 Ocean 還處在摩爾曲線的初期，在進行下一步：預測數據之前，需要添加大量的數據集。我可以問一下你估計什麼時候數據可以用來預測數據？

Bruce：Along the lines of the answer I just gave, we are working with enterprises under NDA to bring valuable data sets on to the market. The most obvious data streams would be those from the crypto-space – Chainlink feeds, Streamr, Messari, CoinmarketCap/Coingecko, LunarCrush.With this data, cryptotraders can get the information they need to make better decisions.
按照我剛纔給出的答案，我們正在與 NDA 旗下的企業合作，將有價值的數據集推向市場。最明顯的數據流將是那些來自加密空間-鏈鏈接飼料，Streamr，Messari，CoinmarketCap/Coingecko，LunarCrush，有了這些數據，加密交易者可以獲得他們需要的信息，從而做出更好的決策。

@ 浥輕塵：Questions from other groups：Will Ocean move to Polkadot network after participating in the slot auction
Ocean 參加卡槽拍賣後會遷移到波卡鏈上嗎？

Bruce：Ocean is an L2 protocol that can live on any layer. We see the momentum in Polkadot ecosystem and the technical advancement of it, so we\’re very confident that having Ocean smart contracts and Ocean Market on Polkadot is the right answer. But there are other technologies that are very good also – Cosmos, NEAR, Binance Smart Chain, etc. – Where-ever there is a vibrant ecosystem, we see that Ocean can function on them, to unlock data
Ocean 是一種 L2 協議，可以存在於任何層。我們看到了 Polkadot 生態系統的發展勢頭及其技術進步，因此我們非常有信心在 Polkadot 上擁有 Ocean 智能合約和 Ocean 市場是正確的答案。但是，還有其他非常好的技術-Cosmos，NEAR，Binance Smart Chain 等。只要有一個充滿活力的生態系統，我們就會看到 Ocean 可以在它們上面發揮作用，以解鎖數據。

@ 慈慈一生：How important is the community to Ocean? What have been your biggest challenges in growing the Ocean community? Are you satisfied with what you have achieved so far?
社區對 Ocean 有多重要？你在發展海洋社區過程中遇到的最大挑戰是什麼？你對你目前取得的成績滿意嗎？

Bruce：Community is everything. Without community we are nothing. You can copy all of our code and create a clone of Ocean – but you can\’t clone our community and we\’re proud of this.We grew out community to 75,000 followers in 2020 from around 30,000. In 2021, we would like to activate community in 10 countries and have 200,000 followers. Every single follower is important. We work for everything. No shortcuts. No fakes. We want people to understand the mission of Ocean and believe in it. Because ultimately, Ocean is about \”owning your own data\” – data that has value, data that is truly yours. Yes, companies and government can use our data – but it\’s ours to give. I want our community to believe in this vision and make it their vision.
社區就是一切。沒有社區，我們什麼都不是。您可以複製我們所有的代碼並創建 Ocean 的克隆版本，但您無法克隆我們的社區，我們爲此感到自豪。到 2020 年，我們的社區從 30,000 左右增長到 75,000 粉絲。在 2021 年，我們希望激活 10 個國家 / 地區的社區，並擁有 20 萬名追隨者。每個跟隨者都很重要，我們爲所有工作而努力，沒有捷徑，沒有假貨。我們希望人們瞭解 Ocean 的使命並相信它。因爲歸根結底，Ocean 是關於“擁有自己的數據”的有價值的數據，真正屬於您的數據。公司和政府可以使用我們的數據，但這是我們提供的。我希望我們的社區相信這一願景，並將其變爲自己的願景

@ 如意我心：Data is most feared by hackers, as hacking means data is stolen and sold, but there have been a lot of hacking attacks in our cryptocurrency world lately, what does Ocean think about this? Does Ocean have its own insurance and guarantees to protect its platform from hackers?
數據是黑客最害怕的，因爲黑客意味着數據被竊取和出售，但最近我們的加密貨幣世界發生了很多黑客攻擊，海洋對此怎麼看？海洋是否有自己的保險和擔保來保護其平臺免受黑客？

Bruce：We think a lot about the negative uses of data. But let\’s be honest, the negative uses happen when a company has weak security and allows hackers to walk in the front door to steal our data. If companies gave us back our data to control, we would all each share responsibility to manage it. Companies are honeypots for hackers. And we want two things to happen. 1) Companies pay a price for holding our data, and are held accountable if something happens and 2) That people know that their data is valuable. This is the only way to rebalance the power in this matter. For hackers, whenever there are incidents against our community we do everything we can to protect them. We have cooperated with police to hunt down hackers and we will continue to.
我們對數據的負面使用有很多思考。但是當公司的安全性較弱並且允許黑客走前門竊取我們的數據時，就會產生負面影響。如果公司將我們的數據交還我們控制，我們將共同承擔管理數據的責任。公司是黑客的蜜罐。我們會確保兩件事。1）公司爲保存我們的用戶數據付出代價，並且在某些事情發生時要承擔責任；2）讓用戶知道他們的數據很有價值。對於黑客來說，每當有針對我們的事件發生時，社區就會盡一切努力保護它們。我們已經與警方合作來追捕黑客，未來也會繼續這樣做。

@ 李玉恆：Hello Bruce, Ocean’s vision is to realize the decentralization of data rights. Data is no longer only owned by monopoly technology companies. How does Ocean ensure fair access to data sets?
你好 Bruce，Ocean 的願景是實現數據權利的下放，數據不再只屬於壟斷科技公司，請問 Ocean 是如何保證數據集訪問權限的公平呢？

Bruce：Fair access to data happens when every person actually owns their data. In this way, we can exert our rights. Let people have control of their data – it\’s theirs to use.Right now, its the companies that have control. We need to let them know that web3 technology is going to make it easier and easier to give people control.I enjoyed your questions. Very thoughtful.
當每個人實際擁有自己的數據時，纔可以公平地訪問數據。這樣，我們可以行使自己的權利。讓人們控制自己的數據，使用的是他們的數據。現在，擁有控制權的公司。我們需要讓他們知道 web3 技術將使人們的控制變得越來越容易。我很喜歡您的問題，非常周到。

墨客：Okay, thank you Bruce. If you still have questions, you can chat with me privately. Today’s AMA will be organized into an article and sent out.
好的，謝謝 Bruce。如果還有問題的可以私聊我交流。今天的 AMA 我們會整理成文章發出來。

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